The Complex Life, of Ian Bailey, and the Ex Wife, and her young Killer Son, now in Broadmoor?

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Ian Bailey, his Ex-Wife and her Killer Son

Ian Bailey married Sarah Limbrick, a fellow journalist in Gloucester in 1980 when Bailey was 23, but they reportedly split up approximately five years later. That would be somewhere around 1985.

Sara Limbrick had a son named Jamie, born somewhere around 1986.

Ian Bailey moved to Ireland in 1991.

Sara’s son, Jamie Limbrick was 17 in September 2003 when he raped and murdered his 93-year old great-grandmother Marjorie Davis.

The pensioner’s body was found in her farmhouse in Gloucestershire, which had been badly damaged by fire. Jamie Limbrick had been staying at an outbuilding on the property at the time of the killing. His grandparents who owned the property were on holiday in Spain.

Jamie came home in the middle of the night and watched a porn film. The “sexually aroused” teenager failed in his attempts to find a sheep to satisfy himself before waking his elderly relative. He raped her, strangled her to death and set fire to the house. Jamie Limbrick then allegedly withdrew £250 from her account.

His great-grandmother’s charred remains were found the following morning by firefighters and an examination of her body linked the attack to her great grandson.

Apparently Jamie Limbrick suffered from a severe personality disorder. He was detained and assessed at the high security hospital, Broadmoor, where it seems he still resides.

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rachel-towns10 · 10 mo. ago

Oh. My. God. That is sickening.

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[deleted] · 10 mo. ago

He isn’t Ians son. The marriage was from 1979-1983

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solasGael · 10 mo. ago

Do you know who the father is or anything about him.

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flopisitOp · 10 mo. ago · edited 10 mo. ago

There is nothing to suggest it isn’t Ian’s son.

There’s nothing to suggest it is Ian’s son.

We don’t know.

The papers say the marriage was in 1980 and lasted 5 years. Have you read the 1979-83 info anywhere? I’d just like to have some confirmation.

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solasGael · 10 mo. ago · edited 10 mo. ago

I thought the sheep comment was a joke but no, he apparently did look for a sheep before raping his great-grandmother.

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1octo · 10 mo. ago

Fascinatingly dark story. Thanks for sharing it. Has the ex-wife ever come forward to speak about him?

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flopisitOp · 10 mo. ago

I think I read that she spoke to the police about Bailey….

I’m pretty sure she has never spoken to the media about Bailey or her son.

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Proverbsthirty1 · 10 mo. ago

I saw online that Ian Bailey is doing a world exclusive for Irelands Big Issue on 1st Sept. For the first time, his full story in his own words. Can’t wait to read it. Its online at www.irelandsbigissuemagazine.com from 1/9/21

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Lazy_Pay_7265 · 10 mo. ago

Wow I’ve never heard this before? Source?

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flopisitOp · 10 mo. ago

https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-10049081.html

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Proverbsthirty1 · 9 mo. ago

Ian Bailey this issue of Big Issue in Ireland

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Turbulent-Oil-2162 · 10 mo. ago

Birds of a feather.

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estreeteasy · 10 mo. ago

What???? How has this never been public? Is he IBs son?

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[deleted] · 10 mo. ago

It’s public. But he’s not IB son so he was only mentioned as the mother’s ex husband

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pukkapakka · 8 mo. ago

I went to school with Jamie (used to sit next to him). I remember the day he did it. He came i to town afterwards and told as many people as he could (proudly) what he had done. He even wrote graffiti saying ‘smoked me nan’ on a wall.

Jamie was always an outcast. He was heavily into drugs from a young age. He got more and more strange as he got older. I put this down to the drugs. He was always abusing his gran, using the house for parties and taking her money. He was quite open about it.

He was also a talented skater, entering the X-games at one point.

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RecordingDowntown956 · 7 mo. ago

I also went to school with him, before he was expelled because he was clearly very odd. I remember him always trying to psuedo-molest people and writing graphic notes about the girls in english classes. He didn’t last long.

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DJD12551 · 26 days ago

I remember Jamie, he dated my sister. He always seemed like a nice guy, he came into my parents house many times to see my sister. The last time I seen him was in 2002 down the “Y Zone” near the old video shop, he gave me a massive hug and said “Daniel, please give this hug to your sister”

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Joe90WIN · 1 day ago

Hi, Might I PM you about Jamie Limbrick?

Warmest Regards

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Joe90WIN · 1 day ago

Jamie William D (Davis?) Limbrick-Mayer’s father was Robert Mayer: A Gloucestershire small time crook! Anybody know when the recently divorced Sara Limbrick married him?

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Bailey – knew too much too soon?

Did Bailey write details in his articles that he could not have known at the time?

Both documentaries on Netflix and Sky analyzed Bailey’s newspaper articles and made the allegation that Bailey knew too much, too soon about the crime and wrote details in his newspaper articles which he couldn’t possibly have known at the time, unless he had seen the scene close-up either as the murderer or secretly tramping around in the morning afterwards.

I have collected over 300 news articles on this story. There are still some articles I need to collect, particularly in French and some tabloids but at this stage I am in a good position to be able to test this allegation by looking at each detail and seeing whether Bailey was the first to write about it.

Before I begin, please note that Bailey only ever wrote about the murder for three papers :

  • The Irish Daily Star
  • The Sunday Tribune
  • The Evening Echo, only one article on 03/02/1997 “Walking to her death”

So articles in any other newspapers were written by someone other than Bailey. I have detailed references for all of these articles, but for brevity, I have left some out.

Crime Scene Details reported by Bailey in his articles

I have listed out some of the details of the crime scene here

  1. She was killed with a blunt instrument
  2. Had wounds the the back of her head
  3. There were wine glasses on the table
  4. She wasn’t sexually assaulted
  5. Found wearing laced boots
  6. Concrete block used
  7. There was hair in her hands, possibly from the killer
  8. She tripped
  9. There was blood on the back door

Let’s take each of these details in turn

Detail #1 Blunt instrument

The first reference appears on 24/12/96 Belfast Telegraph “Gardai hunt French woman’s killer” – by Michael Devine. It then appears in almost every article after this point. Bailey’s first article with this detail was on 28/12/96 in a two page spread in the Daily Star shared with Senan Molony. “Glasses clue to the killer”

Detail #2 Wounds to the back of the head

More or less every newspaper wrote about head wounds. Eddie Cassidy wrote in the Evening Echo on 24th that the victim had “gaping wound to the back of her head”. Cassidy wrote she died of multiple head injuries on on 27th. Bailey wrote about “repeated blows to the back of her head” in the Sunday Tribune on 29th.

Detail #3 Wine Glasses

The story of the two wine glasses first appears in multiple articles on 28/12/96. The Irish Times article “French visitor may have known her killer”. Bailey’s also had an article on 28/12/96 on this in the Daily Star “Glasses clue to the killer”

The origin on this info could have been the Gardai, as the Irish Times article quotes Superintendent J P Twomey. However on Sunday 29th, the Sunday World published an extensive interview with Josie Hellen, Sophie’s caretaker. Hellen said she had been let into the house soon after the discovery, it is not clear whether this was on 23rd (which would be controversial, as this was before forensics arrived) or on the 24th. In any case she described many of the details inside the house including the state of the bed, the wineglasses, a missing poker and many other details. The Sunday World article is “KILLER TRACKED SOPHIE TO BRUTAL DEATH IN IRELAND”.

Detail #4 She wasn’t sexually assaulted

Bailey wrote this on 26/12/1996 in the Daily Star. This was presented as highly suspicious in Sky’s Murder at the Cottage Episode 2. How could he have known this as the post-mortem had only been conducted 2 days earlier and the pathologist didn’t write his report until March 1997. However when you look at the articles in other papers, it is clear Bailey did not have the scoop on this. The Irish Times wrote that “there did not appear to be any signs of sexual assault” on the 24th. Unbelievably this was before the post mortem was even conducted. However, the detail was repeated in both the The Irish Times and the Irish Independent in their issues for 25th December. Now the newspapers for 25th December generally don’t go on sale until the 26th or 27th so we cannot be certain when the copy was filed. But Carole Cadwalladr wrote in the The Daily Telegraph on the 25th that “A post mortem examination last night showed… There was no evidence of any sexual assault.” The Garda held a press conference on the evening 24th after the post-mortem so this is the likely source. From 27th all newspapers carried the same story, even Le Monde in France. “L’assassinat de Sophie Toscan du Plantier demeure mystérieux” Marc Roche.

Detail #5 She tripped

On 28/12/96 Bailey wrote in the Star that “As she ran from him in the dark, she appears to have tripped”. Again the documentary made much of this showing Jim Sheridan reading this line and commenting “Don’t know where he got that from” But it is likely it came from the Gardai. The Irish Times cited the Gardai “They think she fell in the boreen and, after trying to protect herself, her attacker dropped a heavy object, such as a stone or a concrete block, on her head.” (French visitor may have known her killer, 28/12/96)

Detail #6 Concrete Block

This detail first appeared on the 28th in the Irish Times, The Irish Independent and in the Daily Star in an article Bailey contributed to.

Detail #7 Hair found in her hand

This is variously described as a “clump” including by Bailey, but in fact it was only a few strands. It was first mentioned by the Irish Times and Irish Independent on the issues dated 25th. Bailey didn’t write about it until 28th December in the Star, by which time it was in many newspapers including the Evening Herald also calling it a “clump”.

Detail #8 Laced Boots

This first appeared in the Sunday World 29/12/1996 – KILLER TRACKED SOPHIE TO BRUTAL DEATH IN IRELAND. Bailey didn’t write about her boots until 5th January 1997

Detail #9 Blood on the back door

As far as I can see Bailey was the first to write about this. Bailey’s wrote about it in a Sunday Tribune article on 29th. “Woman’s killer thought to be local”. The next reference to this is in the Daily Star on 4th January under the byline of Senan Molony. Molony was working with Bailey so we can surmise he got this info from him. Now we know that Bailey went up to see Alfie Lyons on 26th. Gardai insist he was not allowed to go near the house. The Netflix documentary showed pictures of Bailey nosing around the cottage, but these were taken late in January after the cordon was lifted. We do know he talked to Alfie Lyons and it was Lyons who found the blood on the door, so it seems likely Bailey got this information from him.

Errors made by Bailey in his articles

By contrast to the allegation that Bailey knew too much, there is also a number of cases where Bailey clearly knew too little. Here is what I have found:

Error #1 Discovery

In his earliest article “Questions on victim’s final hours” in the Star on 26/12/96 he wrote that the body had been discovered by Finbarr Hellen. This was incorrect, it was discovered by Shirley Foster, but was identified by Finbarr Hellen.

Error #2 Pursuit

In the Sunday Tribune on 29th “Woman’s killer thought to be local” – Bailey wrote she was “Pursued down the rocky track”, This is incorrect because evidence shows is that she was pursued down the field and not the track because of the blood found on a stone in the field.

Error #3 Shirley’s car

Bailey wrote in his diaries that Shirley Foster was allowed by Gardai to drive past the body. This is false, in fact Shirley Foster drove past the body before she realized and stopped the car. This detail was not known until many years later, so Bailey could not have been present or watching when this occurred. He was quoted elsewhere that two cars were allowed to drive past the body.

Error #4 Body was not found in a crouched position

Bailey wrote in his diary that Foster saw the body “crouched near a five bar gate” The body was not found crouched, it was found flat on its back.

Error #5 No bottle of champagne

Bailey wrote about a bottle of champagne found on the kitchen table. No such bottle appears in the crime scene photos, nor in the list of exhibits.

In summary I cannot find any evidence that Bailey knew more than he should have based on his writings, and in fact there evidence that he was ignorant of key details that he would have known if he was the killer.

Any other detail you can think of I should analyze

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